Talk:Good & Evil

This is the TALK/Discussion page for the Untitled 2010 Release. Here is where we will discuss thoughts, theories, etc. on the topic at hand.

THE BLACK DEATH

Who added "The Black Death" ? Looks like Billy V. to me. Whoever it is, can you provide some sort of validation before such information is listed as "confirmed" by hiddeninthesand.com? ~ Coz
Twas not I, sir. I traced the IP back to Orlando, FL (I live in Jacksonville.) Whoever it is goes to UCF. Who wants to scour the members' Facebooks to find a match? heh. ~ billyvau
It's ok. The song is not listed now, which is all I was going to do at this point anyway. ~ Coz

THE GAP

We're fairly certain we are hearing the bridge of The Gap being played during Boralogue VII. Until further notice this is 80% confirmed. ~ Coz
As much as I hope it's The Gap, the notes don't sound the same to me, I feel it's also similar enough to Mind Control. I think I'm more certain that we'll see the title "Out In The Twilight" on the album than "The Gap"~ Dwight
I'm listening more to the beat. It's pretty darn near identical. The notes and key can change. For instance, the key of Ruler of Everything was changed not long before recording MMMM. ~ Coz
After hearing Cannibal, I'm sure that is what is being played in Boralogue VII. I am sad, because I really wanted The Gap as well. ~ Dwight
Hang on, hang on... In the beginning of Boralogue VII, yes, I think I'd agree that's Cannibal. But the part that I thought (and still think) is The Gap is at 1:04 (the nose-pinch scene). That, again, I believe to be the bridge of The Gap.

MISERY FELL

Can whoever added "Misery Fell" provide their source? At this point, we only have The Boralogues to go by and we've yet to hear that song, even though we are all assuming it will be recorded. Thanks. ~ Coz
Last night, Boralogue VIII went up but apparently was deleted sometime around this morning. In the latter half of this Boralogue, Misery Fell can be heard briefly while Andrew pretended to play the guitar. ~ billyvau
Catch any other songs in the B-log? ~ Dwight
I think they just worked on Hymn for a Scarecrow more. Explanation as to why it was taken down by Bora here: http://screencast.com/t/MjE1YjA2M ~ billyvau
Thank you! ~ Coz

OUT IN THE TWILIGHT

Call me old fashioned, but I don't yet feel comfortable claiming this is a song yet. I think it's a very reasonable assumption, but we've never heard of this song yet and don't know anything about it. There's no actual proof of it being a song, just that we've seen the phrase written in 1 (and a half) places. So, although I do predict we'll find this is a song title, it's just not something we can say FOR SURE, yet. ~ Coz

&

From the recent photo that ross posted, it looks like the song '&' is on the chart. Plus, they're recording A Lady, so I'd imagine that & would be recorded too. - CantelopeSkiz
Mr. Skiz, which block is & in? I assume it's being recorded too, but I couldn't see it. I see a D fourth from the bottom and I thought maybe they wrote "AND" to be funny, but I didn't see it anywhere else. ~ Dwight

I am totally baffled, dumbfounded and confused about how ya'll are able to be 100% certain of "You Are" "Mind Control" and "&" after watching Boralogue IX. Please, someone explain. I didn't think we even knew what You Are sounded like. What did I miss, here? ~ Coz
- You Are was bootlegged from a residency show a while back. It is heard in Boralogue IX starting at 2:10 . Mind Control is heard first at 0:26 (lyrics are the same as in the Mind Control bootleg). & is from Boralogue VI at 2:55. It's the progression (G A B) from "either perspective at all." ~ billyvau
- He's right, I flipped shit when I realized the lyrics from Mind control, it's the same as 36 seconds into mind control bootleg. It's clear that they're doing the bottom part of the harmony, like they did while recording Good Day (recording all 3 of them on each harmony), it's also a little slower, but there's not a doubt that we'll see Mind Control (in SOME form) on the next album, I would imagine in the trio of songs. And even though the quality isn't good on the bootleg (which I only first heard in the last week), that's DEFINITELY You Are (which sucks, i'd rather have Maybe in the Night, but whatever). ~ Dwight
- I am not aware of this You Are bootleg.... ~ Coz
On a different topic, though related to possible songs...It sounds to me in Boralogue VIII at 1:53 that is could very well possibly be "I'm Gunna Win." Thoughts?~Mike
- Hm. Just listened to it and I can't say for sure, but it sounds like You & Me to me. ~ Coz
- I think it's Mind Control (you can hear the same chord changes from the end of it), but it's slower, which coincides with the slower vox recording from XI. Also, if you look at Andrew's playing after Ross stops drumming, you'll see a pattern that looks very similar to how Mind Control's main piano riff sounds. ~ billyvau